What people say about Apple Mail spam filtering
Screenshots and links from Apple’s own support forum and from Hacker News: junk in the inbox, wanted mail in the Junk folder, recovery email nobody saw.
We say across this site that Apple Mail leaves a gap worth filling. Coming from a company that sells a spam filter, that is a self-serving thing to claim, so this page hands over the sources instead. Everything below is a screenshot of a public thread, with a link back to the original beside it. Read them and judge for yourself.
Junk that lands in the inbox
That is the failure everyone pictures when they think about spam. It is also the cheaper of the two, because you see it happen and you can deal with it. The other direction costs more and shows less.
Wanted mail that lands in Junk
The silent kind
Silent is the word that matters. Nobody checks the Junk folder daily, so a filter that files the wrong message does not cost you the minute it takes to move it back. It costs you the login you could not complete, or the invoice you answered late. A commenter on another thread put the sharpest version of it: “Their spam filter is rubbish. Even emails sent between members of the same family sharing group go to spam in spite of never leaving Apple’s own infrastructure.”
Which one is happening to you?
Two ways to be wrong
Both failures are in the threads above, and the fix is not the same. Pick the one you recognise.
When you last opened your Junk folder, what was in it?
The filter is missing things.
Marking each one as junk teaches Apple’s filter slowly, and on Gmail, Outlook and other IMAP accounts Mail does not learn from it at all. This is the gap a second filter reading the message itself is for.
What this page does not prove
A page of complaints is evidence that a question keeps being asked. It is not a measurement, and it would be dishonest to present it as one. Four limits, stated plainly:
- A support forum is where unhappy people go. Nobody posts a thread to report that their junk folder is working, so the sample is selected by definition.
- “Me too” counts how many people found a thread and recognised it. It is a popularity signal, not an incidence rate, and no denominator exists anywhere on that page.
- We chose these threads, and we sell a competing product. The links are there so you can search the same forum yourself and see what an unfiltered pass turns up.
- Apple filters mail in two different places: iCloud does it server-side, before delivery, and the Mail app has its own junk filter on the Mac. Several of the quotes above describe the iCloud side. They are different systems that fail in ways users experience identically, and only the second is where Klar sits.
Where Klar fits
Klar is a Mail extension, so it reads each message as it arrives on your Mac and files it before you ever see it. It runs a modern language model rather than a word list, which is the part that matters for scams written to read like real mail, and the classification happens on your machine rather than on a server. If you want the settings side first, we wrote up what Apple Mail’s own junk filter can and cannot be told to do, and there is a comparison with SpamSieve, the long-standing local option on the Mac.
Every source on this page
Public threads, in the order they appear, plus the two quoted without a screenshot. Dates are the original post.
- Automatic junk mail filtering not working Apple Support Communities, 17 May 2022, 192 Me too
- Mail.app Junk Mail Filtering Apple Support Communities, 1 January 2023, macOS Ventura 13.1
- Junk mail filter not working Apple Support Communities, 20 February 2023, 83 Me too
- junk mail filter Apple Support Communities, 20 January 2024, on losing the SpamSieve plug-in
- The iCloud Mail Spam filter is weird Hacker News, nik736, 21 August 2025
- I can’t rely on iCloud Mail anymore Hacker News, wafflebot, 25 December 2025
- My apple hosted mail spam filter works in reverse Hacker News, blitzar, 2 April 2026
- Their spam filter is rubbish Hacker News, fauigerzigerk, 6 February 2022